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The 7th annual Freedom Talk conference was held in Red Deer, Alberta, over the weekend.
The huge crowd heard from an assortment of speakers, each offering opinions on this year's theme of Meeting The Unity Challenge. Discussions included western separatism, foreign interference, the Canadian Constitution, health care and climate change.
Speakers included Greenpeace alum Patrick Moore and Maxime Bernier.
Longtime MLA and member of Jason Kenney's “Fair Deal Panel”, Drew Barnes, was also in attendance. He shared a front-row table with legislative colleagues.
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Facebook TwitterBECAUSE the people who live on one side of the country want different things from the people on the other side of the county and the west shouldn’t be continually penalized because their population is smaller. On that note politicians(Kenney included) shouldn’t look to immigration to fix that problem. The country is too big. The only real solution is Buffalo.
0500——————————————————Despite the fact that I drove by the Ethyl Plant in a muscle car with a high compression engine , I really didn’t see the need to go out of my way to educate the other individual who posted.
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I assume you were referring to me as the “other individual who posted”. My point was , not how the lead got in the gasoline, it was scientists pointed out it was bad for our health and forced the change.
I saw no need to explain that the 60 year old problem was political.
Muta, you have come a long way from the NZ Shootings where you told us that you were a Security Expert who spoke to the top people in the business, and now you dabble in tetre-ethyl with possible Scientific abilities.
“Why should the vote of someone living in the GTA be worth less than one of an Albertan?”
Andrew isn’t neurotypical and culturally poisoned, he’s stupid.”
Hi Liza,
Would you mind if I pointed out that you were so busy tossing out random insults, that you forgot to address the point I made?
Andrew isn’t neurotypical and culturally poisoned, he’s stupid.
-———————————————————————————————Andrew, going by your above comment, I can finally tell you something that you don’t know, that being Elon Musk and his Tesla set a world record at a Automobile test site.
Car & Driver Magazine was having their yearly rigorous tests for new vehicles. At this time they were testing 35 new cars including a Tesla. The Tesla broke down on the way to the test field and despite dozens of the best mechanics on site, no one could fix it.
The Tesla had to be towed 100 miles in the opposite direction to a Tesla service center, making it the first new vehicle to never make it to Car & Drivers test circuit, a record still held today.
That’s your problem Andrew. You just never know when to shut your trap .
START LEAVING . .. . … IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS.
I just watched 1 hour and 40min of Dr. Patrick Moore telling us carbon is great for the planet.”
YEah, those great scientists found out the simple way to get the harmful lead out of gasoline: not putting tetra-ethyl lead in in the first place. It was not naturally occurring but was added as an octane booster, and it was well before the 70s that they figured it out. Unfortunately, the government didn’t care before, and a vast network of lobbyists and Ethyl-funded think tanks (Ethyl, of course, is the company that made the stuff) pushed for it to continue decades after they knew what the lead was doing.
As for Moore, that’s basically “fossil fuel shill says carbon is great”. Hardly surprising. The lure of bags of cash coming out of whatever carefully hidden funding Heartland gets is more than enough to compromise whatever idealism he may have once had.
Many great minds are indeed working on taking the harmful elements out of gasoline. Elon Musk is perhaps the most famous one, having almost singlehandedly invented and commercialized a car that runs without emitting carbon dioxide.
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What happens post 2040, when global oil demand is declining?
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Same thing as when in in 2001 “peak Oil” was predicted:"
The Hubbert peak was one of supply. The current expectations are that demand will peak before supply did, largely because shale oil removing supply constraints and the rapid expansion of electric alternatives.
In fact, Alberta got burnt by this very switch- the oil sands only make sense in a world where it represents the only possible way to avoid catastrophic, Hubbert-style peaks. The glut resulting from rapid expansion in supply-side and stagnant demand (in 2005, they thought we’d be using a lot more in 2020 than we will be) removed the economic case for bitumen somewhere around five years ago.
Remember what happened to the coal sector, Duke? Nobody saw that coming either.
“What the hell do you care Andrew? Don’t worry about it. Not your problem.
You guys have fun going around the maypole. The seat distribution is not fair. Ontario, 121, Quebec, 78, everyone else gets less than 50, with BC topping out at 42. Its skewed. Rationalize till the cows come home. Its skewed."
It will be when Alberta comes crawling back.
How is it not fair? They allocate about 1 seat per 110,000 people Ontario actually doesn’t have enough seats for its population – it should have about 133. Quebec is essentially on target, and BC will probably get a few more at the next re-allocation. On the other hand, Saskatchewan has 14 seats whne it should have only ten. (PEI is grossly overrepresented, but only has three extra seats), and Manitoba’s also over-represented by a seat or two. That’s your unfairness.
This is to ensure that a vote is worth roughly the same no matter where you are in Canada. Why should the vote of someone living in the GTA be worth less than one of an Albertan?
-—————————————————————————————Just like in the early 70’s, a great Scientist found an economical way to take the harmful lead out of our gasoline, another Private Industry person will find a way to take harmful items out of gas, if there are any.
I just watched 1 hour and 40min of Dr. Patrick Moore telling us carbon is great for the planet.
What the hell do you care Andrew? Don’t worry about it. Not your problem.
You guys have fun going around the maypole. The seat distribution is not fair. Ontario, 121, Quebec, 78, everyone else gets less than 50, with BC topping out at 42. Its skewed. Rationalize till the cows come home. Its skewed.
0500—————————Thanks Liz. Interesting TMX info. Taxpayers will hopefully see the expansion work started and completed.
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I suspect a Government of the East promise to sucker in the Natives with no intention of ever delivering. Again.
They really have to stop playing Charlie Brown to Trudeau’s Lucy.
What happens post 2040, when global oil demand is declining?
-————————————Same thing as when in in 2001 “peak Oil” was predicted:
In 1974, Hubbert again predicted that world peak oil would occur near 2000, this time in 1995 “if current trends continue.”19 However, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, global oil consumption actually dropped (due to the shift to energy-efficient cars,20 the shift to electricity and natural gas for heating,21 and other factors), then rebounded with a lower rate of growth in the mid 1980s. Thus oil production did not peak in 1995, and has climbed to more than double the rate initially projected.
Pessimistic predictions in 2000s[edit]
In 2001, Kenneth S. Deffeyes, professor emeritus of geology at Princeton University, used Hubbert’s theory to predict that world oil production would peak about 2005, with a possible range of 2003 to 2006. He used the observed growth of production plus reserves to calculate ultimate world oil production of 2.12 trillion barrels, noting: “No educated guesses go in.” He considered the application of new technology, but wrote: “This much is certain: no initiative put in place starting today can have a substantial effect on the peak production year.” His final conclusion was: “There is nothing plausible that could postpone the peak until 2009. Get used to it.”22 As of late 2009, Deffeyes was still convinced that 2005 had been the peak, and wrote: “I think it unlikely that oil production will ever climb back to the 2005 levels.”23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicting_the_timing_of_peak_oil
What happens post 2040, when global oil demand is declining? Alberta’s “viability” is severely threatened by global demand trends, and separation seems to be a deliberate attempt to avoid diversifying.
It still may never be built under Trudeau, but the interesting part to me is that the BC First Nations dropped their suit against it.
WITH ONTARIO being the operative words. It couldn’t have happened without Ontario.
The deciding factors for the number of seats allocated need to be more than just head count.
I blame a lame federation.
The fact that the results in the East are shown before the polls have closed in the most of the West was always for me absurd.
However, from 2006 to 2011 it was the West that gave Harper its minority government and in 2011 to 2015 it was the West with Ontario that gave Harper the majority and Québec gave the official opposition to the NDP.
In 2015 Ontario and Québec gave the majority to Trudeau due to the reduction of Conservatives in Ontario and NDP in Québec.
In 2019, the election could have gone either way: the conservative West with Ontario like in 2011 or the Ontario and Québec like in 2015. In terms of seats count, it was the liberals in BC and Manitoba that pushed the liberals ahead of the conservatives. They were over the 13 seats difference.
In conclusion, blame Manitoba and BC for a liberal minority government! It is the fault of the West…
Or blame Trudeau for not implementing proportional representation!
Pick one or both!