Is there a splinter cell of influencers trying to undermine MAGA from within? Dr. James Lindsay speaks out
Dr. James Lindsay suggests well-known conservative figures like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens could be part of a broader movement to subvert the Trump administration.
On Monday's episode of The Ezra Levant Show, Dr. James Lindsay discussed why he believes a group of well-funded, right-wing influencers are trying to undermine President Trump's 'MAGA' movement from within.
"I perceive that there is a radical splinter movement that has been embedded within MAGA, probably all along actually. We used to call it the alt-right, then there was the so-called 'very fine people' hoax around the Charlottesville event in August of 2017," he said.
"And they went underground, but they didn't go away. What they did was they put on happy faces and they joined the movement and became more and more prominent within a broad pro-American, MAGA thing that grew, and it rapidly strengthened under the Biden years," Lindsay continued.
"And then I feel like last summer they started to emerge from their cocoon to try to run a radical splinter movement. And I think Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, and most of these other ... sometimes Trump calls them 'panicans', are all part of this," he added.
Lindsay pointed to how Carlson and Owens at first were critical of potential U.S. strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, but then later appeared to back the president's decision to destroy the sites, even attempting to take credit.
"I think this is all a game, I have an extraordinarily cynical interpretation of this. I think it's a deliberate strategy to undermine MAGA from within," he said.
Lindsay explained that he doesn't necessarily know who is ultimately behind the movement, whether it be foreign adversaries or the World Economic Forum elites, but he views it as an attempt to subvert MAGA from within because they couldn't succeed crushing it from the outside.
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Peter Graf commented 2025-09-03 22:27:06 -0400Mike Pence has shown himself to be a coward and very compromised. He could have made a significant contribution to halt the stolen 2020 election, but he elected not do take such action and therefore allowed the Deep State to carry on with the steal. However, I would evaluate Mike Pence as a psychologically compromised member of the ‘Uni-Party’ as opposed to a ‘mole’.
When he was called upon to ‘stand in the gap’ for the sake of the Republic when it was obvious that was a a lot of hanky-panky going on with the election results., he decided became a coward instead and retreated into a ‘comfortable’ space. It’s easily noted that he bore no brunt or punishment for his actions from anyone on the left, from the MSM, or from the policing entities such as the FBI as opposed to the very harsh treatments given to some of Trump’s other advisors such as Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro who of whom were sentenced to some months in the DC gulag for rightfully refusing to be subpoenaed to the fake and law-breaking J6 committee . If Pence had decided to do what he should have done on J6, you can be sure the Deep State would have come after him with a like vengeance. Some of those J6 committee members need to go to jail for a variety of malfeasant actions to include the destruction of evidence after Trump won the Nov-24 election.
However, even after all this drama was over, Mike Pence continued to make statements to criticize Trump and the MAGA Republicans even after it was widely evident that Trump has many good points to make on what happened for the elections as well as what went down on J6, which qualifies Mike Pence as ‘Deep State’ actor, be that consciously or unconsciously. Basically, at the very least, he’s been shown to be a completely and total fraud. If he were genuine, he could have admitted his mistakes and taken corrective action, but instead he doubled-down on his discredited rhetoric.
The world should thank Donald Trump for the happenstance of how he exposed just how fake everything has been in the US media and government. He started using the term ‘fake news’ way back in 2016. Most persons back then just thought it to be a DJT eccentricity, but now most of us know all too well that the MSM is nothing but sold-out old whores, and now we also know, again thanks to Donald Trump, just how evil the US government was under the Biden Administration. Everyone loves to criticize the guy for this or that or for not being a ‘nice guy’, whatever that stupid term means during our WOKE era, but DJT will go down for sure as perhaps the most consequential national leader in the 1st half of the 21st Century if not the entire 21st Century. He certainly has brought clarity to a number of important items in the public interest where there was only obfuscation before. -
Bernhard Jatzeck commented 2025-09-03 21:27:53 -0400This would certainly explain Mike Pence’s actions after the 2020 election, wouldn’t it? -
Peter Graf commented 2025-09-03 20:49:06 -0400Yes, of course there are moles in many private organizations, movements, and in every government. God knows we have traitors at every level in most of the governments of western nations. And, of course, the mainstream media, intended to be ‘moles in the court of public opinion’, are nothing but sold-out old whores who are ageing out. We live in a world full of chameleons.
But, in this case, I really don’t believe that either Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens are moles, per se. From my perspective, they are genuine independent reporters, but they have their own weaknesses and foibles. I think both are willing to engage with persons with different viewpoints on critical subjects and are most probably willing to acknowledge their own errors of judgment when strong enough evidence can be presented to counteract their working structures of thought on varying subjects. Tucker has acknowledged many times already how he has been completely deceived in the past, and he has even hesitated to call himself a proper Christian due to some of his past actions and statements. God doesn’t require us to be perfect, but he does insist that we be humble when confronted with the truth. -
Bruce Atchison commented 2025-09-03 19:58:46 -0400In every organization, there are moles. Like the rodent kind, we must exterminate them through firing and banning them. After all, infiltration works better than confrontation.
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Peter Graf commented 2025-09-03 15:50:49 -0400Thanks for the exploratory comments. Look, I don’t agree 100% with any of these online commentators such as TC or Candace Owen’s, but that doesn’t make them ‘traitors to the MAGA cause’. It’s okay to disagree. I therefore think this guest is way too pessimistic on the entire point.
Conservatives need to align themselves on what can agree on and ‘agree to disagree’ on other topics. That’s okay to do. There’s a bigger and more dangerous enemy at the gates.
Since Tucker was ousted at Fox 🦊, he’s been on a wildly exploratory journey, and, yes, that may have allowed him to entertain concepts with which I don’t currently agree. But that is what exploration is all about. He should be so allowed, and in time, there will be some self-correction, I believe. There’s no malign intent there from my perspective.
Candace Owens has a somewhat different issue, and it’s a common stumbling block for a lot of people at her and TC’s level on the topic of Israel and the Jews. They seem to have their ‘blinders on’. But, again, I don’t see any malign intent, just common mistakes that normal people make in their own respective ‘journey of life.’
For example, if you read some of Adolph Hitler’s own words, he started out as supporting Jewish ideas and life choices but then began souring on them when he saw some of the negative influences they carried in the society. Of course, all that became murderous once he had amassed some power.
But the point is one can trace the breadcrumbs or thought of where he started to where he ended regarding the development of a working ideology on the Jews.
And if we listen to such people as Candace Owens, and many others as well, we can see the same pattern of thought developing. I don’t mean to imply that such ideas will turn murderous in these persons’ cases, but the point is that you can follow those same pattern of breadcrumbs for developing a working ideology on the Jews.
The Jews have always been a ‘special case’ and need to be treated as such as opposed to conflating them with everyone else. They are not exactly ‘normal’, and I don’t mean that in a bad way.
Since time immemorial, the Jews have always had outsized influences in the societies where they have lived. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s just in their DNA. That’s okay. They have always been great contributors to the wealth and prosperity of these nations, and all that has been propelled by their own DNA, methods of living amongst themselves, their innate ingenuity and genius, hard work, and just plain good luck.
But at the same time one can see a high level of corruption in some or many of these people. Witness the Harvey Weinsteins and Jeffrey Epsteins of this world, for example. Again, that’s not a conspiracy. Those are poor life choices amongst highly powerful people. The greater the power, the greater the temptation to abuse that power.
But when ordinary non-Jewish people notice these points, they begin to develop these ‘A-Jewish-Conspiracy-To-Take-Over-The- World’, ‘Awful People’, and ‘Israel is the Problem’ types of mental constructs about Jews. It’s easy to see how this happens.
Sure, Israel 🇮🇱 will have its own ‘Deep State’ problems as is now common in all the western nations. The Mossad are a highly successful intelligence agency and probably equally on par as the CIA for an advanced level of corruption. But that doesn’t make Israel any worse than anyone else. They just have, as they always have had, an outsized influence, even amongst the community of the intelligence agencies.
In the end, Israel is only a small nation trying to survive in a block full of bullies and bad actors, and also now a world watching and criticizing their every move.
But the Israelis are doing a pretty phenomenal job at surviving and taking it to their sworn enemies.
The Palestinians, on the other hand, should have long ago made peace with the Jews. There were no more excuses to NOT have peace with the Jews after the 1978 Camp David Accords.
The Palestinians are reaping the harvest of the violent and malcontent seeds which they have sown for the last nearly 80 years without respite. It’s the law of life: you get back what you have given. It’s as simple as that. That’s not Israel’s fault.
These people should instead follow the examples of the German and Japanese peoples after their defeat in 1945. They proverbially ‘dusted themselves’ off, shook hands with their former enemies, and then proceeded to reconstruct their respective countries to become .’great again.’ Easy, peasy, and it only takes an IQ of 100 to get there.
Instead, the Palestinians seem to have instead a collective IQ of 50 and are insisting on making the same mistakes 100 times over and where they fail to understand basic concepts in life needed for success.
These are our modern Neanderthals, and they seem to have some type of a stupid religion that only serves to reinforce all their worst instincts. Yes, please go extinct already, and let the rest of us progress to the next level of consciousness !!
Sure, Israel is not perfect, but God knows none of the rest of us are either.
Sorry for being so long-winded….