This thread seems to have become a venue for circular argument and vacant speculation. I see two positive things to come from this flap regardless of the success or failure of Levant’s boycott. – A) A Canadian corporate rent seeker has been put on notice that doing business in Canada is about doing business, not playing host to fringe politics. B) The true mediocrity of the TH franchise is being discussed in social media and possibly this will be a wake up call – perhaps not – If TH ( certainly not to be compared in revenue, capital assets and political influence to Rogers or Bell) does not heed this as an opportunity to improve product/corporate culture/customer relations/business model – I think we will be seeing a change in ownership or at least the franchise being shopped around for a domestic strategic partner. Despite the disinfo to the contrary, Timmy’s is a fragile business structure reliant on the whims of the customer and fierce competition. I recall the McDonalds troubles (mostly customer perception issues) which has their stock in free fall and they have(had) 5 times the market Timmy’s does – this should impress Timmy’s owner, Burger King, because they understand the value of corporate/product image attached to profits. Ultimately it will be Timmy’s shareholders who decide if playing politics is a wise choice when they see their returns.

If you are like me and have been disappointed in Timmy’s product and pricing, this is a good opportunity to jump on the boycott wagon an hope for some change – things like this travel word of moth more so than by failed hippies with placards on the street – this boycott could very much become trouble for Timmy’s – particularly if it is tied to the overall decline in quality. But who knows until the stock prices are set in the next few quarters – be so certain about “secure” markets betrays a morbid lack of understanding how the service industry operates.

dA SILVA you’re an idiot.

Every day is casual Friday at many companies now. The days of wearing suits to work – unless it’s a big meeting – are over for a thousands of companies and industries. The work culture has changed.

Looked like “casual Friday” on Tuesday at Tim Horton’s Head Office.

Christoph,

If you want to believe that this Tim Hortons boycott is taking Canada by storm and choose to ignore reality – then have it. Obviously you among others here want to stay in the bubble and live in fantasy land where you believe that this is a successful and popular protest against Tim Hortons, even though that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Hell, only 10,000 people have watched Ezra’s video so far. That’s NOTHING in the big picture, but you won’t listen – you are convinced that there is some kind of movement going on. And I am sure you didn’t listen to Jesse Brown here – where he talks about what Ezra is doing, including the fact that he isn’t releasing actual numbers like he SHOULD be. Take a listen – get a different perspective – maybe learn something.

http://canadalandshow.com/podcast/tim-hortons-boycott-fiasco

Thanks for digging in to the rot at Tim,s

The chickens have come home to roost! Tim hortons joined the sleaziest most corrupt organizations in the world! The envirocons have displaced millions of already starving children and using their tribal land for carbon sinks. Alberta sheeple will continue down the path to oblivion! This rebel.

I see some mighty strange comments about Levant taking on this issue as he seeks to bring pressure on Tim Hortons for their callous behaviour towards Canadian labourers. That is the beginning of the Tim Horton disgrace. Some claim that a journalist shouldn’t take a political stance. Anchors on news shows shouldn’t but opinion type journalists certainly should take such a stance. Personally I am making a public thank you to Ezra for his initiative & a public condemnation of Tim Horton’s in tandem with the foreign hate mongering environmental group that pitched this game. The hypocrisy of Tim Horton’s & lack of scientific evidence supporting their claims is pathetic. They are serving coffee in the Middle Eastern oil producing states of constant public upheaval ,murder & mayhem which is exasperated by the search for blood over oil. To many linear thinkers in our world today and very few can stomach their own hypocrisy. Oil is not the demon that power hungry environmentalists claim & it is what keeps your computer running along with it’s manufacture. The Canadian President of Tim Horton’s is the disgrace here.

How pathetic. The signatures of ~10,000 outraged paying customers does not matter as much as a single Washington State radical environmentalist group’s pestering. I will not set foot in a Tim Hortons until they make this right……I won’t hold my breath based on Ezra’s footage.

Esther, you may have heard of this new invention called quotation marks.

Ezra, very good presentation on your part. I gave up going to Tim Hortons around 2 years ago after I received bad breakfast at Halifax airport. The staff working there looked very tired and half asleep.

Sorry, Jimmy, I see it is Christoff Dollis who needs to clean up his English!

Jimmy da Silva likes to hear himself talk. Possibly he could clean up his English!

Thank you, Ezra, for championing Canadians & their rights/concerns. Don’t despise the day of small beginnings!

The Rebel with Ezra has accomplished great things across Canada & enabled us to participate. (Jimmy appears ignorant of reality.)

I am thankful for Ezra & the Rebel after experiencing what I have many years in B.C. courtrooms for truth & my life!

I first heard of this issue when I received an activist email. I wrote them a rebuke & commended Tim Horton’s for running the ads. I did not find a way to fwd my email to Tim Horton’s. So I was shocked & disgusted to learn 2 days later that they caved to the activists. They don’t deserve our business if they don’t respect our country.

I am glad to receive the truth from the Rebel and know Ezra did what I was unable to do.

Shalom!

I’m not big on the whole “boycott” idea, but I do regularly spend about $40/week at Tim’s. However, once my Tassimo packages are empty I’ve decided I’m done. Why? Well, this was one of the straws, but isn’t the only issue. The product is no longer good. I usually drink decaf and with their new thermos carafes I’m usually getting older, staler coffee, and even fresh brewed it tastes worse than it used to.
I’m also annoyed that all of the Tim’s in my area (South Calgary) are loaded with TFWs. They don’t need to be. They’re not hiring the kids in the area, in favor of sending money out of the country. This isn’t a good thing. Most of the time they can’t understand what I’m ordering or saying, which is bad customer relations.
So I’m $40/week, times 52 weeks ramps up to about $2000. It doesn’t take a genius to see that I’m not the only one feeling this way, and every 500 of us means $1 million per year in lost sales.
Almost everyone I ever talk to says, “Oh, Tim’s is crap, I never go there anymore”. So telling me this isn’t a potential catastrophe for them? Not credible.

Well done, Ezra. There’s only one thing that niggles at the back of my mind on this. And that’s (as brief as his appearances were) the demeanor and speech patterns of the chap who presented himself as the COO of Tim Horton’s Canada.

He was so obviously lacking in executive demeanor (in speech patterns, speech content and appearance) that for all we know he could have been (a quickly but poorly briefed) janitor – or security guard. The fact that he was so reluctant to appear on camera, at the very least, makes this an open question to my (suspicious!) mind.

Notwithstanding any and/or all of the above … just for the record … Tim Horton’s started off as a donut place – not as a coffee place – way back in ‘64 in Hamilton’s then quiet, albeit quietly expanding and upscaling, Westdale shopping strip.

This was a few stone-throws away from the home of Westinghouse, Westdale High School and the (at least then!) popular Paddy Green’s Pub. A neighbourhood in which my family had resided prior to relocating to the somewhat more trendy and upscale (at least in those days … not sure about now!) West Hamilton. i.e. much closer to “the ravine” and to McMaster (fondly known, in those relatively “Big Mac”-free days, as “Mac”), as well as to Dundas than to downtown Hamilton.

By the way Jimmy, after scrolling down this thread you have too much time on your hands to enter all of your comments on this site. Dont they turn off the Internet in your jail cell at night.

What I can’t believe that is happening, is that in Grande Prairie no one seems to be aware of this, as I went past 3 Timmys to find a MacDonalds this morning (their coffee is really good too as are their Apple Pie pieces!!) and half of every Timmys line-up was “signed” oilfield vehicles, and GP is BIG-Time oil & gas based economy. Seems there is a media blackout of this matter in GP – or maybe it’s all those iPod – rap-crap listening people running the media there!
BUT, this may be good too, because most all Timmys in GP are being operated mostly by people that can’t speak or understand plain English – who can’t even get a 2 cup coffee order right.

they were laughing at him when they went back to their office.
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Jimmy boy were you watching the same video everyone else was. That guy looked like he was ready to make a beeline for the toilet right after Ezra manhandled him. I just hope he got there in time.

It is astounding that a company like Tim Horton’s hasn’t diffused this situation sooner. It really looks like they are Coffee and Donut Local Yocals who really don’t know how to handle a PR problem.

David Clanachan has it coming. He is so arrogant that even after such a long wait he did not offer Ezra Levant a cup of coffee, or even a Timbit. For the boycott to be effective I think Enbridge should immediately suspend all Tim Hortons ads in its outlets and on its mail-outs. No Tims, no gas.

I’m an American. I live in Florida. I wish our journalists had the kind of stick to it attitude that Ezra Levant has. I’m glad I came upon this Rebel site. I hope our leaders finally approve the pipeline for your oil sands oil. If we had a few Ezra’s here it would happen sooner. Good luck neighbors.

The impact of the petition is no small thing to Tim Hortons, regardless of how they are currently acting. They’re paralyzed not knowing what in blazes to do. They didn’t see this coming. It’s the fallout of a knee jerk reaction. They know full well that every name on that petition represents at least a thousand other names that feel the same way. Their reaction is a natural attempt to mitigate the impact. You can be certain Tim Hortons is not taking that petition lightly. Nor are they taking lightly Ezra’s being there. He’s a bigger threat that most people realize.

Tim Hortons knows they made a HUGE BLUNDER and DO NOT want this to get out of hand. The last thing they want is to get into a war with the likes of Imperial Oil who could tear up “their agreement” and replace all the Tim Hortons locations with more than eager competitors. If you think that thought has escaped Tim Hortons, think again.

I love it that Crazy Ezra confronted them. They clearly are cowards, but they’re not stupid and will also come full circle, apologize, and step back out of the political arena as soon as they can figure out how to do it gracefully. Otherwise, it will only get worse for them. Especially in Alberta.

Jimmy, I know you, in your own small way, are here to try to dismiss and, if you can, reduce the success of the new and fairly quickly going ‘Rebel Media’, so by all means, say something more. I’m sure you wanted the last word, despite having no point other than, however legitimate, only a smallish portion of customers will know about or care about this, and you have little in the way of substantive comments on the fundamentals of this yourself.

So, please, add something. You know you can’t resist.

Christoph,

I am just stating reality for better or worse – good company or bad company. I think a lot of people here are just naïve. Tim Hortons wasn’t afraid of Ezra – they were laughing at him when they went back to their office. THAT is the reality. So cut your losses, stop going to Tim Hortons if that’s your choice – but this is over.

“I assure you that they don’t give a fuck about you or the loss of you as a customer. You have already been replaced.”

Gee, man. You totally could work for Tim Hortons public relations. You’re a natural. You’d fit in there! Go do it. Whatever you’re doing now, you are missing your calling.

Christoph,

I assure you that they don’t give a fuck about you or the loss of you as a customer. You have already been replaced.

“You sure told them.”

Yeah, pretty much voting with one’s wallet as well as speaking out against a company’s customer service, with a heartfelt personal story, is the definition of that. Very well put.

Christoph,

Awesome – so don’t go to Tims anymore. You will be replaced with the new customers that they are constantly acquiring. You sure told them.

“feel free to think that this is some kind of huge movement going through Canada like a runaway freight train”

Do you ever do anything other than build straw men and attack them, continuing to do so after this has been pointed out to you several times?

I told you my own personal story in the comments, at the beginning of them. I don’t need a movement to tell me what sort of irresponsible, issue-ducking, customer-service-phobic culture Tim Hortons Canada has now. This incident, and their President’s and corporate office generally’s handling of it, has confirmed to me what I’ve personally seen.

You’re obviously really only impressed by numbers, not principle. You should work for Tim Hortons’ corporate.