Ezra Levant interviews former UN president at WEF

Ezra Levant spoke with former UN President Volkan Bozkir, covering topics such as power, wealth, democracy, and more.

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While Rebel Commander Ezra Levant was at the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, he was able to question former United Nations General Assembly President Volkan BozkirVolkan Bozkir served as the president of the 75th session of the General Assembly from September 15, 2020, to September 15, 2021.

Levant walked the streets with Bozkir, posing his first question: "Which is more powerful, the United Nations or the World Economic Forum?"

"Well, these are two different baskets," Bozkir answered. "I can't say the United Nations is less powerful than the World Economic Forum."

Levant also asked a "tough" question: "Which is more Democratic, the UN or the World Economic Forum?"

"Well, UN, I was the president, it's the largest Democratic platform in the world where every country is represented," Bozkir responded. "The World Economic Forum is, of course, in its capacity for many years, it's also showing this democratic and giving space to every country in the world. I think we shouldn't compare the two. They are helping each other, and this combination is helping the world's peace and stability."

Levant further challenged the effectiveness of the United Nations by pointing out recent increases in war, death, terrorism, and overall instability, questioning whether the United Nations has been helpful, harmful, or useless.

Bozkir's response highlighted a structural issue within the United Nations, specifically the hindrance posed by the veto powers in the Security Council, which prevented effective resolution of political issues.

Despite this limitation, the UN excelled in areas such as education and humanitarian aid, involving a substantial workforce. "When it comes to politics, the Security Council is blocking all the possible peace solutions. So the danger here is if we can solve the Security Council problem, then countries individually are trying to find solutions to their regional or political problems. And this is the danger," he added.

Levant raised a paradox, noting that although many countries have a vote at the United Nations, some don't let their citizens vote. "Should a small dictatorship be able to cast a vote to negate a giant democracy, one country versus one country when the little country doesn't allow its own voters to vote?" he asked.

Bozkir acknowledged the current UN structure after World War II, suggesting it might need reform but replacing it is not an option. Realistically, the focus is on reform, finding better solutions, and empowering the General Assembly as a democratic platform. To address vetoes in the Security Council, the General Assembly can now request the country to explain its decision, marking an important step forward.

Levant concluded by asking one last question: "How can we make the world more free? I'm worried that the world is getting less free, more authoritarian. Do you have any ideas?"

"Well, there are cycles of economic developments in the world," the former UN president said. "This is causing people in some parts of the world to have less hope. Some parts of the world are becoming more radical. And I think we must work together, first of all to find better solutions to the economic problems in order to solve the geopolitical difficulties. Otherwise, when you have so many poor people hungry without water, they can easily become refugees or terrorists."

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